Some revealing insights from Infosys at a recent investor concall on the stark contrast between demand in Europe vs the US. Infosys COO, SD Shibulal, said that Infosys is “continuing to see growth in the US”, but “Europe is where the US was a couple of quarters back. The speed of decision-making (has) not really picked up.” He added that although (Continental) European firms are considering offshore as “a very, very viable option”, they are not making decisions.
On the other hand, CFO V. Balakrishnan noted that “the UK is much better off that the rest of Europe”, and that Infosys is seeing “good traction” in retail and manufacturing sectors. According to my estimates, Infosys’ UK revenues have actually been declining in each of the past six quarters on a rolling 12-month basis, and now stand at around £390m. It has to be said, though, that this is mainly the ‘BT effect’, as our ‘favourite telco’ is Infosys’ largest client.
Bala also pretty much ruled out making a concerted effort to get into the UK public sector market “in the near future”, due to the Government’s cost-cutting agenda – though I have always thought this actually gave the India-based players the best opportunity in a long while to strut their stuff. We’ll comment more about the ‘Indian onslaught’ on the UK public sector in a forthcoming PublicSectorViews research note. Interestingly, Infosys does not see the same barriers to entry in the US public sector, where they have recently appointed a sector CEO and will explore (initially) subcontracting opportunities. Bala also alluded to “opportunities coming on the way for M&A”, but frankly, they’ve been humming that tune for as long as I’ve been following them but have yet to burst into song.
In an unrelated news article, it was reported that Deutsche Bank is pulling back in house some of its BPO activities outsourced to Infosys. What really caught my eye about this was the comment that the 150 employees affected will apparently transfer to the DB captive at 50% higher salaries! The proverbial “source close to the development” said that “most are accepting this (DB) offer”. Can’t imagine why. I was aware that the Indian captives of MNCs (multinational corporations) pay more than the IT/BPO players, but I must admit I hadn’t appreciated that the wage gap was quite that high. No wonder all the Indian grads want to work for foreign banks! By the way, Deutsche Bank is a huge believer in offshore, and has had relationships (including shareholdings) with many of the India-based IT players going back yonks.